Through the Crabacombs - Revision history

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NARFNra: testing creating a 48 hours level page for my stage

2021-09-15T11:41:21Z

testing creating a 48 hours level page for my stage

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{{Levelinfo
|align= right

|rank = 20th
|image= [[File:MAG48HMML-20-Through-the-Crabacombs.png]]
|game=''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''
|creator= [[NARFNra]]
|composer= [[NARFNra]]


|gamenum = 48h
|judge1 = 78
|judge2 = 60
|judge3 = 83
|judge4 = 56
|totalscore = 69.25

|elements = 1
|collectables =
|box =
*[[Cyorown]]
*[[Feeber]]
*[[M-445]]
*[[Bubble Platform]]
*[[Falling Platform]] (MM5)
|enemies =
*[[Feeber]]
*[[Cyorown]]
*[[Crabbot]]
*[[M-445]]
*[[Croaker]]
*[[Haiker N]]
|gimmicks =
*[[Bubble Platform]]
*[[Falling Platform]] (MM5)
|subbosses =
|bosses = [[Grey Devil]]
|other =
* [[File:Skip.png]] [[Skip Teleporter|Skippable]]
|music = No End in Sight
|location = Tier 9
|previous = [[Cornerstone to Dominate]]
|next = [[Spicy Banana Bread Storehouse]]
}}

'''Through the Crabacombs''' is the 20th place entry in ''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''. It consists of an underground collection of flooded tunnels using Pump Man's tileset, wherein the player is forced to deal with [[Feeber]]s and infinitely spawning [[M-445]]s while maneuvering around large numbers of spikes. It also features several long vertical rooms where the player is forced to ascend on [[Bubble Platform]]s and [[Falling Platform]]s while being attacked by [[Cyorown]]s.

It is notable for being the highest-ranked level in the game to feature a [[Skip Teleporter]], the next-highest being [[Cosmological Factory]] in Tier 4.

==Skip Status==
This level was deemed skippable on M-Jacq's suggestion, due to the difficulty of some segments (especially given the low number of checkpoints and heavy use of instant-death traps like pits and spikes.)

==Scores==
{{JudgeComment48h
|parma = CRABACOMBS, I LOVE IT.
What I don't love is the checkpoint placement. Like legit, if you fixed that you'd solve most of my problems with this stage. Your gimmicks and the bubble crabs are fairly conducive to using spikes and pits as obstacles, and the challenges you made (especially with the 3 Gyro Man Platforms on top of each other covering a hole, or the long vertical sections with the bubbles) are great uses of the gimmicks. Really good job.
The issue is that since so much of the level is based on instant death, you need more checkpoints to make the level ebtter. Going through the same sections multiple times is boring since this is not a fast-paced level.
Splitting this level into 3 or 4 sections instead of 2 would go a long way in making it better. Despite that, this level feels, sounds, and looks grate (get it?) with that sewer theme. Has that nice dismal sewer feel.
Overall, good experience.
|parmascore = 78
|pjdesign = 30
|pjcreativity = 09
|pjfunction = 10
|pjfun = 17
|pjaesthetics = 12
|pk = Dang, those crabs were a pain at times. Well, this stage was pretty fun at times, and at others, it felt kinda...blah. If that makes sense. Clearly, there were clever ideas behind some of these challenges, but some of them just didn't click right with me. The last bubble elevator, for example. The crabs kind of screwed me over more times that I'd have liked. Overall, though, it was decently fun.
|pkscore = 60
|pkdesign = 18
|pkcreativity = 09
|pkfunction = 10
|pkfun = 13
|pkaesthetics = 10
|m-jacq = Difficult sections in the Mega Man games - and most video games, really - comes in two varieties. You've got tricky sections, which are difficult because executing the correct maneuvers to get through them requires skill on the player's part. You've then got "gotcha" sections, which are difficult because they require you to act and respond extremely quickly. (So, single-screen Yoku Block puzzles are "tricky," Quick Lasers and spike drops are "gotcha"...-y) Both can work in a level, but you get significantly more leeway on tricky sections than you do on gotcha sections when it comes to how punishing a level is. Players get less angry when the mistakes they make are due to something they could have foreseen.
This is a long prelude to say that while this level is very, very hard at points, and it's light on checkpoints as well, I don't think that's necessarily a bad thing. The sections done over pits have very generously-timed and obvious cycles; I never thought that my failure on these sections was due to anything other than human error. Meanwhile, while there were a couple "gotcha" enemies - the Cyorowns in particular - they never showed up over spikes or pits. It's not ideal that the difficulty curve was close to backwards, and that the earliest part of the level was harder than what came afterwards (especially when you had to hop between ledges placed directly above one another), but I can forgive that.
This level is really, really well-made from a technical standpoint, if you ask me - clean level architecture, interesting setups, that sort of thing. That final segment in particular is ace - the bubble "elevator" turning into a more standard wave bubble puzzle as you dodge spikes and M-445s was really cool, and a nice showy capper to the level. Grey Devil was pretty cool as well.
I suspect I'm in the minority on this one, but I really liked this level in spite of how tough it was in spots (to the point where I think it warrants a Skip Teleporter - not for me, mind you, for other people). Just a really solid platforming experience.
|m-jacqscore = 83
|mjdesign = 33
|mjcreativity =13
|mjfunction = 08
|mjfun = 17
|mjaesthetics = 12
|freems = Well, we got ourselves a perfectly fine level, so let's get talkin'. A few placements of the crows didn't feel well thought out given how they act almost instantly upon spawning on screen (which is more annoying when the screen just keeps going up vertically), there were probably a few more spikes than really needed, and a few jumps just felt more janky than they really needed to be. Now you certainly did have unique ideas for those gimmicks. Using the Gyro blocks in a way that there's multiple ways to go down and you have to determine the correct one while dodging enemy fire and the bridge of Wave Bubbles at the end that slowly gets smaller as some of them hit spikes. These are neat ideas in theory, but I don't think the level takes full advantage of them. The Gyro situation can be handled very quickly and the enemies prove a little threat and while the Wave bubble section at the end is cool in theory it really ended before it began. And given the fact that it was underwater, it was very easy to just skip the whole last part of it entirely and jump up to the boss door. They're kinda saved for special moments when I almost wish more of the level was dedicated to these cooler sections. More of that would have been great.
|freemsscore = 56
|frdesign = 19
|frcreativity = 08
|frfunction = 09
|frfun = 13
|fraesthetics = 07
}}

==Trivia==
* This stage is the only stage in the game to feature the [[Grey Devil]].

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 |fraesthetics = 07
 }}
-==Trivia==
+==Notes==
-* This stage is the highest-ranked level in ''MaG48HMML'' to feature a [[Skip Teleporter]], the next-highest being [[Cosmological Factory]] in Tier 4.
+* Through the Crabacombs is the highest-ranked level in ''MaG48HMML'' to feature a [[Skip Teleporter]], the next-highest being [[Cosmological Factory]] in [[Tier 4 (MaG48HMML)|Tier 4]].
 <br>
 {{MaG48HMML Tier 9}}
 {{MaG48HMML}}
 [[Category:Stages]][[Category:Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level Stages]][[Category:Tier 9 (MaG48HMML)]][[Category:Skippable Levels]]

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 }}
-'''Through the Crabacombs''' is the 20th place entry in ''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''. It consists of an underground collection of flooded tunnels using Pump Man's tileset, wherein the player is forced to deal with [[Feeber]]s and infinitely spawning [[M-445]]s while maneuvering around large numbers of spikes. It also features several long vertical rooms where the player is forced to ascend on [[Bubble Platform]]s and [[Falling Platform]]s while being attacked by [[Cyorown]]s. The level also occasionally suffers from issues with objects refusing to spawn in the long vertical Bubble Elevator rooms, which can make it appear to be impossible to complete buster-only in some cases - In general, repeatedly jumping while ascending long vertical rooms on Bubble Platforms can prevent this issue.
+'''Through the Crabacombs''' is the 20th place entry in ''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''. It consists of an underground collection of flooded tunnels using Pump Man's tileset, wherein the player is forced to deal with [[Feeber]]s and infinitely spawning [[M-445]]s while maneuvering around large numbers of spikes. It also features several long vertical rooms where the player must ascend on [[Bubble Platform]]s and [[Falling Platform]]s while being attacked by [[Cyorown]]s. The long vertical Bubble Elevator rooms in this stage occasionally suffer from object-spawning issues due to how the Bubble Platforms work in scrolling areas, which can sometimes make it appear to be impossible to complete buster-only - In general, repeatedly jumping while ascending long vertical rooms on Bubble Platforms can prevent this issue.
 It is notable for being the highest-ranked level in the game to feature a [[Skip Teleporter]], the next-highest being [[Cosmological Factory]] in Tier 4.

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+|align=right
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-|rank = 20th
+|rank=20th
-|image= [[File:MaG48HMML-20-Through-the-Crabacombs.png]]
+|image=[[File:MaG48HMML-20-Through-the-Crabacombs.png]]
-|caption= Being trapped in a bubble would make anyone crabby.
+|caption=Being trapped in a bubble would make anyone crabby.
 |game=''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''
-|creator= [[NARFNra]]
+|creator=[[NARFNra]]
-|composer= [[NARFNra]]
+|composer=[[NARFNra]]
 <!-- ===========Scores============== -->
 <!--
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 MaG48HMML: 1: ParmaJon, 2: PKWeegee, 3: M-Jacq, 4: Freems
 -->
-|gamenum = 48h
+|gamenum=48h
-|judge1 = 78
+|judge1=78
-|judge2 = 60
+|judge2=60
-|judge3 = 83
+|judge3=83
-|judge4 = 56
+|judge4=56
-|totalscore = 69.25
+|totalscore=69.25
 <!-- ===========Stats============== -->
-|elements = 1
+|elements=1
-|collectables =
+|collectables=
-|box =
+|box=
 *[[Cyorown]]
 *[[Feeber]]
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 *[[Bubble Platform]]
 *[[Falling Platform]] (MM5)
-|enemies =
+|enemies=
 *[[Crabbot]]
 *[[Croaker]]
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 *[[Haiker N]]
 *[[M-445]]
-|gimmicks =
+|gimmicks=
 *[[Bubble Platform]]
 *[[Falling Platform]] (MM5)
-|subbosses =
+|subbosses=
-|bosses=*[[Grey Devil]]
+|bosses=
-|other =
+*[[Grey Devil]]
 * [[File:Skip.png]] [[Skip Teleporter|Skippable]]
-|music = No End in Sight
+|music=No End in Sight
-|location = [[Tier 9 (MaG48HMML)|Tier 9]]
+|location=[[Tier 9 (MaG48HMML)|Tier 9]]
-|previous = [[Cornerstone to Dominate]]
+|previous=[[Cornerstone to Dominate]]
-|next = [[Spicy Banana Bread Storehouse]]
+|next=[[Spicy Banana Bread Storehouse]]
 }}
 '''Through the Crabacombs''' is the 20th place entry in ''[[Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level]]''. It consists of an underground collection of flooded tunnels using Pump Man's tileset, wherein the player is forced to deal with [[Feeber]]s and infinitely spawning [[M-445]]s while maneuvering around large numbers of spikes. It also features several long vertical rooms where the player must ascend on [[Bubble Platform]]s and [[Falling Platform]]s while being attacked by [[Cyorown]]s. The long vertical Bubble Platform rooms in this stage occasionally suffer from object-spawning issues due to how the Bubble Platforms work in scrolling areas, which can sometimes make it appear to be impossible to complete buster-only. In general, repeatedly jumping while ascending long vertical rooms on Bubble Platforms can prevent this issue.
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 ==Skip Status==
-This level was deemed skippable on M-Jacq's suggestion, due to the difficulty of some segments (especially given the low number of checkpoints and heavy use of instant-death traps like pits and spikes.)
+This level was deemed skippable on [[M-Jacq]]'s suggestion, due to the difficulty of some segments (especially given the low number of checkpoints and heavy use of instant-death traps like pits and spikes).
-==Scores==
+==Judge Comments==
 {{JudgeComment48h
 |parma = CRABACOMBS, I LOVE IT. What I don't love is the checkpoint placement. Like legit, if you fixed that you'd solve most of my problems with this stage. Your gimmicks and the bubble crabs are fairly conducive to using spikes and pits as obstacles, and the challenges you made (especially with the 3 Gyro Man platforms on top of each other covering a hole, or the long vertical sections with the bubbles) are great uses of the gimmicks. Really good job. The issue is that since so much of the level is based on instant death, you need more checkpoints to make the level better. Going through the same sections multiple times is boring since this is not a fast-paced level. Splitting this level into 3 or 4 sections instead of 2 would go a long way in making it better. Despite that, the level feels, sounds, and looks grate (get it?) with the sewer theme. Has that nice dismal sewer feel. Overall, good experience.
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 * This stage is the highest-ranked level in ''MaG48HMML'' to feature a [[Skip Teleporter]], the next-highest being [[Cosmological Factory]] in Tier 4.
 <br>
 {{MaG48HMML}}
 [[Category:Stages]][[Category:Make a Good 48 Hour Mega Man Level Stages]][[Category:Tier 9 (MaG48HMML)]][[Category:Skippable Levels]]